http://www.windowsitpro.com/authors/author/author/5777289/rsscomment/5777289en-USSun, 27 May 2012 07:15:52 GMTSun, 27 May 2012 07:15:52 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/fiber-optics-training-cisco-resources#commentsAnchorThu, 13 May 2004 12:08:56 GMT
The article was very interesting but didn’t say anything about the inventor of fiber optics]]>Buddy Goodrich Thu, 13 May 2004 12:08:56 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/fiber-optics-training-cisco-resources#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/fiber-optics-training-cisco-resources#commentsAnchorSun, 02 May 2004 13:29:55 GMT
Hi! very informative article ! i’m interested in fiber optics training, {cfot} {cfos}. i live in south florida {port saint lucie} can’t seem to find any local training. it’s not possible for me to go out of town for a week or so. if you could help me out on finding something i would be grateful. thank you]]>william lafleur Sun, 02 May 2004 13:29:55 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/fiber-optics-training-cisco-resources#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorThu, 05 Feb 2004 11:23:40 GMT
I oculd not found the this site. Can yuu send me the correct one, please. http://msdn.microsoft.com/training/options/vbscript.asp#sp_train.]]>Khaled Ahmed Thu, 05 Feb 2004 11:23:40 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorSat, 01 Mar 2003 04:31:50 GMT
Please can anyone recomend (i) A very good book on fundamentals of vb scripting (ii) A very good site treating tutorials on vb scripting]]>Urijah Omiunu Sat, 01 Mar 2003 04:31:50 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorThu, 07 Nov 2002 00:19:00 GMT
Anyone know the new address of the VBScript downloadable tutorial is? The course topics are perfect for beginners in programming. Thanks.]]>josephineThu, 07 Nov 2002 00:19:00 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-certification-resources#commentsAnchorTue, 07 May 2002 06:21:58 GMT
I want everyone out there to know about a relatively new site that is incredibly helpful when it comes to getting started with certification classes. The address is www.techscholarships.com. You can research tons of different certifications, but the best part is their scholarship application. They allow you to fill out a generic scholarship application, and then forward your information to schools who participate in their scholarship programs. They only give your application to schools that can accomodate your needs that you specify in the application. This is a free service to students, and there are some awesome scholarships available. Everyone should check it out.]]>Adam Brown Tue, 07 May 2002 06:21:58 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-certification-resources#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-certification-resources#commentsAnchorFri, 18 Jan 2002 15:28:34 GMT
This Inet+ special price needs a promotion code to be accepted by COMPTIA as a lagitament offer. Can some one tell me where to find one or maby share the code with me??? Please respond soon the special is possibly over tonight (1-18-2002) at 7:00 PM. Thank you. Jerry]]>Jerry Landrum Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:28:34 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-certification-resources#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorSun, 22 Oct 2000 11:11:30 GMT
Search www.dogpile.com or other metasearch engines for mcse and college and credit. Get loads of info on the topic.]]>Scott Parker Sun, 22 Oct 2000 11:11:30 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/a-deal-for-mcts#commentsAnchorFri, 23 Jun 2000 10:19:10 GMT
I as well as yourself did not made the list for some reason, eventhough I qualified. I also faxed a copy of my transcript and MCT certificate, and was amazed how quickly Chancey responded to my request, in three days I had the CTT certificate in my hands.]]>Maria Galdos Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:19:10 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/a-deal-for-mcts#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/gearing-up-for-windows-2000#commentsAnchorTue, 23 May 2000 14:08:15 GMT
I did MCSE to get in to the Field as without Technical Ceritifications you dont get jobs. I dont see why Microsoft wants to retire MCSE 4.0 so soon though there aint many W2k Certified techs.]]>maliniTue, 23 May 2000 14:08:15 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/gearing-up-for-windows-2000#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorFri, 19 May 2000 09:33:44 GMT
I quote from the artical. "If you pursue NT 4.0 certification, you need to complete the three NT 4.0 exams and Exam 070-058: Networking Essentials before the end of the year." This is not correct. In order to qualify for the Exam 070-240 , you have to complete the 3 NT 4 core exams, NT Server, NT Workstation and NT Server in the Enterprise. Youl do not have to complete Networking Essentials. For more reliable information regarding this issue please see:http://www.microsoft.com/mcp/certstep/mcse.htm]]>simon mc glynn Fri, 19 May 2000 09:33:44 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/online-resources-from-ibm#commentsAnchorSun, 07 May 2000 18:10:07 GMT
The following statement relates to material removed from this column, and has been retracted by Windows 2000 Magazine in accordance with my request. I cannot speak for the magazine, but I recognize that using quotes from a private source as I did was unacceptable. My editor was not made aware of the problems that this might cause when I submitted the article. It should not have been published and I have contacted the magazine to request that it be removed. I am confident that this will occur on Monday. While I know the damage cannot be completely undone, I will do my best to repair what I can and ensure that this does not occur again. I would like to apologize directly to the MCT community for this lack of judgement and thank them for pointing out the issues before more damage occurred. Steve LInthicum]]>Steve Linthicum Sun, 07 May 2000 18:10:07 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/online-resources-from-ibm#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/online-resources-from-ibm#commentsAnchorFri, 05 May 2000 20:30:35 GMT
The comments published in this article were taken from a PRIVATE, password protected forum for trainers only. Not only did the author fail to get permission from anyone in the private forums before submitting his article for publication, he didn’t even solicit comments from anyone via email. The author betrayed not only of the trainers who’s comments he stole but also the unwritten (as well as written) rules of the trainer forums. The forums were a private place for trainers to vent and discuss issues not meant for public consumption. Hundreds, if not thousands, of trainers over the years have worked within this "honor system", until now. Please help us out and give us some suggestions as to what can be done to prevent the publishing of private quotes without permission in your magazine in the future.]]>Mark Casanova Fri, 05 May 2000 20:30:35 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/online-resources-from-ibm#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/gearing-up-for-windows-2000#commentsAnchorTue, 11 Apr 2000 11:43:59 GMT
Microsoft wants better MCSEs, MCSEs that have experience and knowledge. This is the wrong way to go about it. MS has always stated that an MCSE candidate should have experience first before certification. Most companies won’t be W2K this year so how are we supposed to get the experience first? You can only get so much experience on a laptop and a few home machines. Disqualifying NT 4.0 MCSEs to eliminate good test takers is counter productive to the goal of making better MCSEs. Even "paper MCSEs" must know something after cramming for exams or they would not have answered the questions right.]]>Duane Brosky, MCSE Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:43:59 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/gearing-up-for-windows-2000#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/gearing-up-for-windows-2000#commentsAnchorTue, 11 Apr 2000 05:54:35 GMT
As the article points out, everyone including Microsofts’ usual ally, the Gartner Group, says small incremental change - preferably after the first support pack - is better. As a cynical move to increase takup of W2k Microsoft ( after piling on the Kudos for the MCSE standing) are using the threat of removal of MCSE status to force the odd 1/2 million techies to learn W2k perhaps a year earlier than they intended. PS what is Steve Ballmers’ email address...]]>Robert Childs Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:54:35 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/gearing-up-for-windows-2000#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/gearing-up-for-windows-2000#commentsAnchorMon, 10 Apr 2000 12:52:28 GMT
Excellent article. Very good content, and the referral to BrainBench is a bonus. Hwj]]>Henry W Jenkins Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:52:28 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/gearing-up-for-windows-2000#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/the-deal-of-the-millennium#commentsAnchorWed, 29 Mar 2000 14:10:20 GMT
This was very helpful. Makes me want to know more about getting my own copy!]]>Drew Leja Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:10:20 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/the-deal-of-the-millennium#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorTue, 14 Mar 2000 19:35:09 GMT
This a joke, after spending lots of time, money and worry in deciding what is the best certification to study for Microsoft throws in this compulsory "upgrade" to certification. As someone who works for the largest retailer in Australia, when the next group of MCSEs (who will most likely be W2K MCSEs)are to employed they will not even have appropriate theoretical knowledge to administer our NT4.0 domain. What’s the point in hiring W2K MCSEs to administer a NT4.0 domain???? As the NT4.0 rollout has just barely completed and the network becomes stable and documented I have serious doubts even the National IT General Manager can persuade the business CEO to fork out another $XXX million dollars to "upgrade" the software and the employees skills just because Microsoft saw it in their infinite wisdom to retire the NT4.0 Track to certification. Sure NT3.51 and Windows3.1 are dead and buried (thank GOD) but NT4.0 was an enormous expenditure for large and small companies and will be here to stay at least for another 5 years. Microsoft needs to think it through again...... this time much harder]]>T S H Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:35:09 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorMon, 13 Mar 2000 13:49:00 GMT
I and others who have either recently acquired their MCSE’s or are finishing theirs are quite dismayed with Microsoft’s decision to do away with this certification that we have worked hard and invested money in (that could have been more wisely spent somewhere else)as a basic admission into the IT networking world. As we all know, no one is planning to implement these Win2K networks until later this year at the earliest. The question that begs to be asked is: Who in marketing at Microsoft felt that their market share and profitability could not be maintained, defended or increased through a few more years of enhancement to an operating system that is just now coming into its own? With another year’s worth of Service Packs and Back Office enhancements/upgrades, it is possible that many of the issues we as IT/MIS professionals have with NT decreased to a level that more organizations would not hesitate to migrate from other systems, thereby increasing the stranglehold Microsoft retains in the IT world. What is the unkindest cut of all is the "4 in 1" exam that we get one shot to pass. Otherwise, we might as well start all over again and buy the books and swallow the costs of the exams and absorb the largest cost of all: the time and effort of learning a new system that will need to go through all of the growing pains that its lineage have gone through over the past years before it becomes a new "standard" OS for the world of networking. When I decided to get into this business, I knew that periodic recertification would be an issue from time to time. Had I known that the intervals were as small as they now are in the Microsoft world, I would have spent my time and money on Novell....]]>Mike Denkinger Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:49:00 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorSun, 12 Mar 2000 12:32:28 GMT
On a similar subject, IEAK 5.0 exam 70-080 has been released since 02/2000. Some books have been published reagrding it however, THERE ARE NO "CERTIFICATION" BOOKS FOR IEAK 5.0! Not from anyone, not even from MS Press, Sybex or Exam Cram (just to name a few). Why is this?]]>Darryl, MCSE, CCNA Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:32:28 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorSun, 12 Mar 2000 12:11:06 GMT
Hello, Regarding the article "An Accelerated Exam for MCPs; A New Benefit for MCTs" stirs me up just a little bit. This test will determine if I renew my MCSE or not. If I pass this exam, I am willing to sit through three more to renew my MCSE. However, if I fail this test, I am "not" willing to pay for, an sit through, SEVEN more exams to renew a certification I paid a lot of money and worked very hard to obtain just a year ago. To me, it is NOT worth it. MCSE’s do not carry very much weight in the IT world anyway. In my opinion, if you obtained your MCSE, you have just bought a ticket to get in the door. Whether or not you can play on the field is something else entirely. ]]>Darryl, MCSE, CCNA Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:11:06 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-accelerated-exam-for-mcps-a-new-benefit-for-mcts#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorSat, 22 Jan 2000 10:36:23 GMT
Thanks for the great information about the Intel courses. FYI - the site for the VB Script training has moved. It’s now found at http://msdn.microsoft.com/training/options/vbscript.asp#sp_train Looking forward to gaining some new skills!]]>JonSat, 22 Jan 2000 10:36:23 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorSat, 15 Jan 2000 10:25:19 GMT
Your article states TCP/IP (exam #70-059) is NOT scheduled for retirement. I looked at Microsoft’s web site dealing with certifications last night (1/13/00) and test #70-059 is scheduled for retirement. This is very confusing for people who are planning their certification tracks and want to take electives that will be valid in the Win2000 track. Can anyone clarify this discrepancy? Thanks.]]>Gary Witt Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:25:19 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/a-new-windows-2000-hands-on-training-kit#commentsAnchorWed, 22 Dec 1999 12:33:57 GMT
I really was glad that you put this out for us all, but I cannot find any information on microsoft’s web site about it so I can order it. Do you have that information?]]>Sandra Smith Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:33:57 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/a-new-windows-2000-hands-on-training-kit#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/save-on-course-1579#commentsAnchorTue, 07 Dec 1999 07:28:46 GMT
I, too, have taken the 1579 class, but I cannot recommend it to anyone else. From what I’ve read and from my own experiences, the CTEC and the Instructor make all of the difference. My class was taught at a CTEC in Fort Washington, PA. The class was taught from 9:15am until around 3:30pm every day, and on Friday, we were dismissed at 1pm. From what you have already read about the course content, you would be correct to assume that there was no way the material could be taught in this timeframe. The Instructor was rather new to Windows 2000. For the better part of Monday, he referred to the product as Windows NT 2000, Windows NT 5, you name it - saying Windows 2000 was pretty foreign. He dismissed this as having too much podium time with NT4. He was not able to offer much insight to the product outside of what the trainer’s guide told him to say - he actually read a good bit of the material to us in his lecture. As for the computers - they did not adhere to the CTEC recommendations for teaching the 1560 and 1561 classes - Pentium Pro 200’s with 64MB do not make good Windows 2000 servers. Also, the class is based on Beta 3, and the CTEC chose to install RC2. I left on Friday wishing we had covered more of the material, and thankful that the CTEC was local, and I didn’t have to drive far to go to class. ]]>John Gunson Tue, 07 Dec 1999 07:28:46 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/save-on-course-1579#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/save-on-course-1579#commentsAnchorMon, 06 Dec 1999 01:45:30 GMT
I ’ve attended such course two weeks ago in a CTEC based in Milan and I wish to share my feelings about that. I enjoyed it very much firstly because , as stated in the article, the average level of attendee’s knowledge was much higher than in the other normal courses. It was useful to share experiences with people who really face and solve problems , not only startup professionals. The course was intense and even I couldn’t manage to revise the chapters we were given , while in Hotel , in the class we covered all the main new aspects of the upcoming OS. We did a lot of LAB , which were well designed ,and free discussions and comparisons were a plus. I think that , as usual , big importance have the instructor , who must be acquainted with the topics ,does need real job experiences and must be able to be concise becouse of the short time of the course compared to the list of topics. I would also suggest to read the whitepapers available at the microsoft’s web site especially the one’s regarding AD. Best regards ]]>Stefano Colombo Mon, 06 Dec 1999 01:45:30 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/save-on-course-1579#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/on-the-road-to-certification#commentsAnchorThu, 02 Dec 1999 15:16:05 GMT
Your article says "One free resource is a Web-based course titled "Hardware Fundamentals v2.1" by Brian Brown (http://cit.evitech.fi/ hf100/ default.htm" This should be updated soon as it is a mirror site, the master site is http://www.cit.ac.nz/smac/hf100/ You might also want to check out our networking concepts and windows NT server courses free at http://www.cit.ac.nz/smac/winnt/ Thanks.]]>Brian Brown Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:16:05 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/on-the-road-to-certification#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorThu, 02 Dec 1999 14:48:27 GMT
Unless Microsoft changed their mind or screwed up I just got my MCSE certification last month (11-3-99) and just got my free technet subscription. It had about 20 CD’s and I am sure included everything.]]>Eric Frank Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:48:27 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorMon, 29 Nov 1999 06:41:07 GMT
Recently, I attended a Sun Solaris Fundamentals course at Sun Canada. As an MCSE NT 4.0, I was shocked to discover how much of NT’s architecture, and design derives from Unix 5 (Solaris is just a version, like BSD, AIX, etc.) Microsoft innovative? Come on. It’s just subset of Unix 5. I credit my MCSE training for helping me understand the concepts easily. Unix is wonderful; it is incredibly exciting to see how much control, that you, as a Sys Admin, have over your environment, right down to device drivers. Yes, you need some basic programming skills, I began to realize, for the first time, how proprietary NT really is. I realized the next step for me, is not handing $$ to M$ for re-certification as an apostle for their less-functioned Unix clone called NT, but rather, to start to learn a whole new, open world called Unix. Sun Solaris is the future, in my opinion now, and I am not going to spend my evenings ’re-certifying’ in Win2K. I am very sorry I got mixed up with M$. They just want the money. Plain and simple greed. Anyway, since most networks are heterogenous, shouldn’t we be learning other systems, not just NT? Just how much spare time does M$ think we have to spend, let alone the money?]]>Ken Dewar Mon, 29 Nov 1999 06:41:07 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-mct-discount-more-free-training-resources#commentsAnchorSat, 27 Nov 1999 17:32:46 GMT
I’m trying to find site and info from your article regarding " Beta testing for the exam will run from November 22 to December 12. The exam counts towards the existing MCSE + Internet track, and will likely count toward the new Win2K MCSE + Internet certification. Candidates who pass the beta will receive two free exam vouchers." I’m currently taking MCSE exams and would like to take the 70-080 to count for Win2K. Thank you, Ari]]>AriSat, 27 Nov 1999 17:32:46 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/an-mct-discount-more-free-training-resources#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorMon, 15 Nov 1999 19:57:47 GMT
Well, perhaps there IS something to be said about open source platforms (cough, cough, Linux, cough. . .) where you CAN find pertinent information on the web (unlike the Microsoft Technet Online area). Figures. . .]]>Colin Ross Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:57:47 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorWed, 10 Nov 1999 14:27:47 GMT
This sounds about right for a multi million dollar company.Its cost me personaly over £3000 to get this far (five exams),and now Microsoft is moving the goal posts.Where is their support for new MCP’s and MCSE’s,I haven’t seen it yet ,and I don’t expect I shall, and It hasn’t got me a job yet.]]>Dave Crooks Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:27:47 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorWed, 10 Nov 1999 12:26:20 GMT
I have read over the other readers’ comments and for the most part I must say that I agree with them. Microsoft if you’re reading this forum my company is a MCSP and we of course get the Technet with our MCSP subscription. I think your actions in the past and up to this point represent a terrible show of support for those who have chosen to make great sacrifices to sell and support your company’s products. Business partnerships are only as good as the companies that form them. From past experience I will say that this poses great questions of your trust and sincerity. To all others in this forum it is my opinion that diversity provides the most stability. If Microsoft would like to reestablish a trustful and dependable relationship with us as Engineers and Solution Providers let them work as hard as we have worked, to get to this point.]]>Adam Jones, MCSE+I Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:26:20 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorWed, 10 Nov 1999 10:02:37 GMT
I took and passed my first (and only) MCSE track test, Server 4.0, in November of 1997. At that time new MCSE’s would get 2 free support calls AND 1 year subscription to Technet. Shortly after that the axed the "free" calls. I have found value in knowing what the hell I’m doing with NT, 9x and networking and not depending on the letters after my name. I would still like to take the tests, but there’s really not much point to it anymore. I work for an MCSP, so luckily I have access to Technet cd’s. The online version is 100% harder to find things and filter out things.]]>Joel Havenridge Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:02:37 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorWed, 10 Nov 1999 06:40:58 GMT
I’m shocked by this, but not surprised either. I got my MCSE earlier in the year and have been enjoying getting Technet. But what baffles me the most is that about half the CDs I get are ones that I already have! They would save a ton of money if they just shipped the few that are necessary. I spend more time replacing and pitching CDs than what I do actually using them. AND, why they goto the exense of shipping via UPS... why not US Mail? hmmm could be the sign of another takeover.... Stay tuned!]]>Eric Hibar Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:40:58 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorTue, 09 Nov 1999 06:36:41 GMT
Technet Plus is a too great a benefit for MS to withdraw. There is lots more learning available in the subscription. I can’t understand this decision.]]>Art Johnson Tue, 09 Nov 1999 06:36:41 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorMon, 08 Nov 1999 21:22:56 GMT
I am baffled by Microsoft. After forking out 7G’s++ and being right in the middle of getting my MCSE I am very upset at the thought of one, having to spend more to recertify once Win2K is upon us and especially not having access to TechNet. Anyone who has ever benefited from using TechNet knows how much time and frustration can be eliminated by the information it contains. Microsoft should be giving this away to all who need it to support it’s products, and not just in the first year!]]>Joey Daniels Mon, 08 Nov 1999 21:22:56 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorMon, 08 Nov 1999 21:14:20 GMT
"If you pass your sixth qualifying exam by that date, Microsoft will apparently honor your entitlement under the existing benefits package and give you a free 1-year subscription to TechNet. Believe me, it’d be well worth the extra effort to complete your certification by that date." Perhaps it would be a better deal to just skip the whole enchilada. What a great concept- build something really broken, then sell multiple courses designed to help unsnarl the mess. Yeesh. I bet this deal just cracks up those crafty Redmondians...]]>Doug Bostrom Mon, 08 Nov 1999 21:14:20 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorMon, 08 Nov 1999 16:52:55 GMT
The discontinuation of the free TechNet subscription is truly a sad state of affairs. My MCSE is almost a year old now, so at least _I’ve_ enjoyed the benefit of the free TechNet subscription. Not a week goes by that I don’t think, after answering someone’s more obscure question, "once again, TechNet is our friend..." I also think that Microsoft runs the risk of losing a great group of NT advocates--who is going to be more willing to push the technology than recent certificate holders? The cost savings versus the unofficial sales force is a poor comparison, in my opinion. The ability to quickly resolve common problems cannot be understated either. The bean counters are doing Microsoft, and MCSEs, a disservice....]]>Bernadette Gerber Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:52:55 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorMon, 08 Nov 1999 16:12:27 GMT
So Big Bill is not making enough money so he has to cut some costs. Way too go Bill. Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot. I think this is the begining of the end for M$ as we know it. I for one think that woiuld be a good thing!!]]>markMon, 08 Nov 1999 16:12:27 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorMon, 08 Nov 1999 15:21:02 GMT
Screw Microsoft. So we spend not hundreds, but thousands of dollars training and retraining and for what? Oh we get all these magnificent job befits we have to share with the torrent of paper MCSE’s. We train, and Microsoft make big bucks off of the taining materials. Redmond charges ATEC’s almost 1200 bucks for a set of those lovely, but gbadly written training manuals. Then we sell and resell Microsoft products and they want to contribute NOTHING . Oh gosh, I forgot that tacky pin and useless card.]]>David Clark Mon, 08 Nov 1999 15:21:02 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorSun, 07 Nov 1999 06:11:50 GMT
I strongly recomend to Microsoft the adoption of MCNA (Network Architect), and quickly!! I’m bored of be called "paper MCSE", because the exams are purely theoric. I think the Cisco way to prove your professionals is the form that Microsoft professionals will gain respect from the network community, mainly the UNIX people, who scares us.]]>Marcelo Junio Teixeira Sun, 07 Nov 1999 06:11:50 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorSun, 07 Nov 1999 05:00:20 GMT
You just made my day. I’m really delighted to hear that Microsoft is taking away the Technet subscription. I’m one exam away from the MCSE. Guess I better get to studying right now so I can make the Dec. deadline. I also have a hard time believing that Microsoft is going to do away with the NT 4.0 MCSE cert so soon. I’m currently working at a Fortune 500 company that is a mixed Novell, NT, Win 98 environment. Eighteen months ago they were still using Win 3.1! With big companies moving a glacial speed, I think the retirment of NT 4 in two years is a bit premature. I doubt that this particular company will have made the full migration to NT 4 by then. I sure wouldn’t expect them to move to Win 2000 anytime in the near future. Oh and thanks for the great idea....When I get my MCSE I’ll be sure to keep the pin handy so I can absorb its magical powers. Let’s see, what are the benefits I get for busting my ass for the MCSE???? hmmmm]]>Keith Hocker Sun, 07 Nov 1999 05:00:20 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorSat, 06 Nov 1999 05:32:20 GMT
What are the marketing guys at Microsoft thinking dropping TechNet for free? Are they wanting to encourage loyalty or what? I feel betrayed and angry. Techies are getting a shafting!]]>James Young Sat, 06 Nov 1999 05:32:20 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorSat, 06 Nov 1999 05:03:29 GMT
I am sure MS bean counters had a hand in that decision. New MCSEs can’t be such a tremendous revenue stream that MS would risk alienating them and causing bad blood among the rest. Have you taken a look at the competition? RedHat 6.1. Complete GUI install. Secure Web server. They are getting there. Will there be a Red Hat CSE or Linux CSE? Is it any wonder corporate types are interested in an alternative? If you want your MCSE to be of value next year or the year after someone needs to contact Bill and bring him down to earth.]]>James Barnes Sat, 06 Nov 1999 05:03:29 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorFri, 05 Nov 1999 17:13:30 GMT
As an MCSE candidate (passed 4, 5th to be during early December, I dont think its appropriate for Microsoft to change the benefits package midstream. I dont have the option of getting my money back from the ATEC... a contract is a contract. During the 12-18 month time frame or some timeframe after your first exam pass etc would be appropriate. I agree that I will now see if there is any way I can take the 6th exam prior to Dec 31st....not an easy task. Do you know of a contact at Microsoft that I could send this to? Thanks for all your information and help Roger Fairchild]]>Roger Fairchild Fri, 05 Nov 1999 17:13:30 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorFri, 05 Nov 1999 15:16:38 GMT
I is amazing the wealthier Microsoft and Bill get, the less they are willing to give anything away. With the great value (in sales) that the MCP and MCSE certificaiton contribute to Microsoft, you would think they would treat their certified people with more respect. But this is the same company that CHARGES their users to TEST their Beta software, then charges them more when the product is completed! I guess it’s good to be king.]]>Charles Legg Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:16:38 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorFri, 05 Nov 1999 14:07:44 GMT
As I try to complete the certification process I am finding it more and more frustrating to keep up with myriad of senseless changes from You Know Who. At some point someone is going to have to say enough. The mindset seems wrong-The object is to have America compete globally by making it (NT more in demand) by making it more efficient for businesses to use, Techies implementing NT as professionals accomplish this. The changes abuse the people that want to see America win. So please quite raping the only people that really appreciate NT and its possibilities.]]>Cas Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:07:44 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorFri, 05 Nov 1999 13:13:39 GMT
Microsoft shows very little consideration for its MCSEs. Microsoft is only interested in the money that the certification program may generate for the company. I do agree that they need a premium certification, similar to the CCIE. I’d be the first one to sign up.]]>Craig Columbus Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:13:39 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/new-mcses-lose-technet#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/more-mcp-benefits-gone-qualifying-as-an-mct#commentsAnchorFri, 05 Nov 1999 10:50:28 GMT
We appreciate Steve Linthicum including ZTAC’s Train-the-Trainer Workshop in this article on MCT qualification, and mentioning Andrew Zeff in particular. Mr. Zeff feels strongly that this type of training can have a tremendous impact on an instructor. We’ve seen first hand the results of our workshop, and take pride in knowing that hundreds of trainers out there are using the skills we teach to better serve their students. Thank you, Eve Lempert Operations Manager ZTAC, Inc. - Zeff Training And Consulting]]>Eve Lempert Fri, 05 Nov 1999 10:50:28 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/more-mcp-benefits-gone-qualifying-as-an-mct#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/jumpstart-windows-2000-training#commentsAnchorFri, 05 Nov 1999 09:17:23 GMT
Yes Brad, Microsoft has changed the rules and with Windows 2000 courses MCTs must pass a separate trainer exam in addition to passing all certification exams relating to a specific course. Microsoft has recently announced a discount for MCTs taking the Windows 2000 certification exams. I’ll discuss that and other new changes in my next article that will be posted on November 19th.]]>Steve Linthicum Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:17:23 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/jumpstart-windows-2000-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/jumpstart-windows-2000-training#commentsAnchorTue, 26 Oct 1999 11:21:34 GMT
Great article! I am totally confused, however, by what you have to do now to be an MCT. I am an MCSE that was planning on taking the Train the Trainer course in November. I thought all I had to do after that was take one course from an MCT and then teach that course. Do I still have to do that to be and MCT plus take these Win 2K MCT exams? The Microsoft web site still says you do not have to take trainer exams. What do folks recommend for those of us that want to be Trainers of Win2K? Also, if you are like me and cannot access the MCT site, what are some cheap training alternatives? Thanks.]]>Brad Dolbec Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:21:34 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/jumpstart-windows-2000-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/jumpstart-windows-2000-training#commentsAnchorMon, 25 Oct 1999 08:34:39 GMT
Bruce. In order to access the LSG courses you need to enter the MCT site at www.microsoft.com/mct. Once inside go to the resources hyperlink and when you get to that page scroll down until you see the hyperlink. As I mentioned in my article, you need to be an MCT to access this resource. the MCT site is secure. Hope this helps......]]>Steve Linthicum Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:34:39 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/jumpstart-windows-2000-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/jumpstart-windows-2000-training#commentsAnchorMon, 25 Oct 1999 08:03:37 GMT
I was very interested in the reference to LSG’s (Learning Solutions Group)Windows 2000 Training and Certification CD’s and Workbooks. While the article mentioned the prices, I didn’t find inforamtion about where to order the products. Please email me informaion where I can order these products. Thanks. Bruce.]]>Bruce Peters Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:03:37 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-2000/jumpstart-windows-2000-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorFri, 15 Oct 1999 04:31:43 GMT
I agree with some of the other opinions posted about this article: 1) good information but 2) how does this move by M$ strike you? 3) How might this effect the value of the certification(s) I’ve heard that the harder the certification and fewer people holding it, the more valuable it would be (like a degree from Stanford or MIT means more than a degree from NosePick Community College. It seems like the new certification track for Win2K will be harder and more detailed (I remember reading something about security being a whole test or section of a test, etc.) which will mean having the qualification will carry more weight. Not fun when studying maybe, but reallly the best for the industry, employers and employees. I got my MCSE last week, but feel there will be enough businesses out there not yet migrated from NT4 for a few years yet. I hear there are businesses out there still hapily running NT3.5 so surely NT4 will hang around til bugs are worked out of Win2K and industry confidence is gained. Not every company has the money to completely rip out their old systems and install new ones with enough ’umph to run Win2K immediately. I come from a Unix back-ground and my comments about the certification process is that it DOES mean I come away with a lot more learned than if I just sat through a class with a meaningless certification at the end. The exam process keeps the concentration and raises the bar--definitely. But after about a year at this M$ stuff, and trying to keep an open mind, I’m not really convinced that I want to spend my career supporting M$ products and chasing ’round behind Bill’s World Domination Machine. ooopss. just lost my objectivity again.... Anyway, the way M$ expired the NT stuff so fast, (fine to retire the 3.5 stuff, but surely it’s logical to carry on recognizing the operation one iteration ago) it just made me think they’re pushing the IT pro’s into Win2K to help push the market and IT directors into Win2K to make more money quicker. Capitalism is all about making money, but surely it is possible to be a little TOO single-minded about it. I think I’ll just go back to Unix.... kevin]]>KevinFri, 15 Oct 1999 04:31:43 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorTue, 12 Oct 1999 08:54:43 GMT
And suppose there is another track, called "Sensible Corporate I.T. Decisions". As NT4.0 will remain in the corporate environments for at least 2 to 3 years, a shortage of qualified ( sometimes certified) NT4.0 specialists will encourage many system engineers to remain or become uncertified NT4 specialists. Proudly they will hold the title "ex-MCSE but not a marketing tool". Microsoft, aware of the loss of all these cheap marketing instruments, will try to sink NT4 by stopping all support. But who cares, we can all become certified Sun Solaris S.E.’s.]]>Paul De Vocht Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:54:43 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorMon, 11 Oct 1999 17:30:27 GMT
well,i’m going to be taking my a+ in january and then onto networking and the msce come march,and hopefully will be finished in october. will i have to upgrade right away at exta expense and time or will the 4 designation be good enough for the workplace? not a great time to change gears.]]>Gary Prescott Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:30:27 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorMon, 11 Oct 1999 14:37:53 GMT
Having received a couple of comments asking for my opinion, I’ll provide a short response. It seems to me that those who have (or will be) obtaining their MCSE certification based on tests associated with the Windows NT 4.0 operating system, should be treated the same as those who obtained certification based on tests associated with the Windows NT 3.5x operating system. The "same" effectively means to me that their certification should have a lifetime that is roughly the same. However, I seriously doubt that my opinion will make a difference. Am I right Microsoft?]]>Steven Linthicum Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:37:53 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorMon, 11 Oct 1999 14:14:14 GMT
Perception of Microsoft can explain the short life of the NT 4.0 certification track and the rapid adoption of the 2k track. It is incorrect to think of Microsoft as a software company even though software is their medium of exchange. Microsoft is a marketing company. To use their explanation, the certification program was developed to establish a pool of qualified personnel able to use Microsoft products. By limiting the pool of personnel skilled in products Microsoft wishes to replace with new sales, Microsoft will by default enhance its market position for promoting newer products. History supports this premise. Each time Microsoft gains control of a portion of the market, they shift their emphasis to another portion at the expense of quality in the controlled sectors. The primary marketing tool of Microsoft is control. Robert W. Murray, MCSE]]>Robert W. Murray Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:14:14 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorSun, 10 Oct 1999 23:51:51 GMT
I want to thank the author for putting together a succinct and accurate account of the changes in the MCSE track. I participate in many MCSE discussion lists, and am frequently correcting people who think that the NT4 exams expire before the Win2K even come out, that they only have 6 months before the cert expires, and things of that nature. That, and the people that do not understand the exam matrix, who think they have to tak more or less than 2 if they are certified on NT4 with all 3 exams. Thanks! David Smith, MCT, MCSE 4.0, A+.]]>David Smith Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:51:51 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorSun, 10 Oct 1999 18:06:45 GMT
I really would like to know your views. The article seemed like it was missing the important "how I feel about this change is..." paragraph. It went right from "A few months ago MS said this" to "this is what is required for the new tracks." How do you feel? Do you think it’s a good jump or bad jump on MS’ part?]]>TK Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:06:45 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorSun, 10 Oct 1999 17:06:23 GMT
Every intelligent MCSE/MCSE2B knows that re-certification is a natural part of life. As you have probably noticed on the various discussion lists, there is mammoth resentment at the manner by which this is being presented. It centers on this: MS is just now retiring the 3.51 track, hasn’t released Win2k, and has announed the imminent retirement of the 4.0 track. This is perceived as heavy-handed, particularly by those who pursue this at their own expense. Therein lies Microsoft’s problem. And they still don’t get it. Perception is 90% of reality. So if the perception is that of heavy-handedness, it becomes the reality, whether it’s MCSE tracks or browsers. Microsoft can afford (not necessarily a dollar-related term) to tread more carefully.]]>Bill Spaulding Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:06:23 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorSun, 10 Oct 1999 16:04:06 GMT
With all due respect, this doesn’t really seem to be much of an opinion on the matter, as one might expect from the title. It is a well organized summary of the publicly available requirements, but it doesn’t really state if you think this is good, bad, or otherwise. It would be perhaps more interesting to read an article that really got to the heart of the matter and discussed how the new program changes will benefit (or not) the MCSE community. ]]>Brian Talbert Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:04:06 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/another-view-on-mcse-certification-track-changes#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/more-mcp-benefits-gone-qualifying-as-an-mct#commentsAnchorWed, 29 Sep 1999 10:20:03 GMT
As a person who is one test away from MCSE, I can understand the need for the updated requirements for WIN2000, but I feel it is foolish for Microsoft to remove benefits from the people who work very hard to become certified in, and promote their products.]]>John Bylund Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:20:03 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/more-mcp-benefits-gone-qualifying-as-an-mct#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/more-mcp-benefits-gone-qualifying-as-an-mct#commentsAnchorWed, 29 Sep 1999 07:53:42 GMT
If you would like to become a trainer, don’t do it now!! To top all this all the requirement for each of the new 2000 courses (which you cannot see until you submit you application and money) require you to pass 3 to 4 exams that are scheduled to retire. I guess MS does not need any new trainers.]]>Mark Dye Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:53:42 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/more-mcp-benefits-gone-qualifying-as-an-mct#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/more-mcp-benefits-gone-qualifying-as-an-mct#commentsAnchorFri, 24 Sep 1999 10:32:38 GMT
There is one bit of erroneous information in the article. The article states that you need to be either an MCSE or an MCSD to achieve MCT status. This is not true. Currently you can be merely an MCP and an MCT as well. Microsoft is leaning in the direction of requiring full MCSE/MCSD status for their instructor but hasn’t officially done so yet. Michael DeBussy, MCSETutor.com]]>Michael DeBussy Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:32:38 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/more-mcp-benefits-gone-qualifying-as-an-mct#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorThu, 16 Sep 1999 23:05:27 GMT
I am attending Mesa Community College in San Diego, working on an AS in Computer Science and a Certificate in MCSE. Check out your local Community College, you may find that they have a MCSE certificate program. Each class is 3 units and costs a total of $60.00 + $75.00 for the book. Multiply that by 6 and my MCSE training is well worth it.]]>Mike Shelton Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:05:27 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorWed, 15 Sep 1999 06:33:39 GMT
While attending the University of Maryland in Asia which is a part of the UMAD College Park. I looked into becoming Novell Certified and wanted college credit as well. I initially received resistance from the college academic advisors because they had no updated information about Novell training. With a little persistance and the web page www.acenet.edu as ammunition, UMAD ordered the updated ACE book and allowed 3 semester credit hours for tests. It’s all a matter of having facts.]]>Alice Williams Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:33:39 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorTue, 14 Sep 1999 18:19:10 GMT
We are a community college AATP which offers MCSE courses for credits. Most colleges I have dealt with offer these courses noncredit. We offer them as part of an A.A.S. degree in LAN Administration, which also includes a Unix (Linux) course, a CCNA course, and A+ course and a CNA course, among others. Students often have trouble transferring these credits because the upper-level colleges often do not have similar courses. Our students generally transfer into MIS or CIS degrees and often have to use the MCSE courses as free electives. I hope that articles like yours may inspire more colleges to offer credit courses and degree programs in this area. As for students who have already taken these courses at a CTEC, we cannot transfer them from non accredited institutions. These students can apply for and receive "prior learning" credits by virtue of passing the appropriate certification exam.]]>Nicole Hanaburgh Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:19:10 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorTue, 14 Sep 1999 09:35:32 GMT
I really liked this article. I teach in a AATP and I’m a college professor. I see many people trying to get college credit for MCSE courses. This article had some very good advice. I would have liked to have the author mention "testing out" of a class the college may have. While we don’t take ACE recommendations or grant credit for MCSE courses, ANY students can challenge ANY course for just $15. A little preparation coupled with some MCSE courses, a student would be well suited to passing a course challenge for some of our classes.]]>Prof. S. Jeff Cold Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:35:32 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorMon, 13 Sep 1999 08:51:24 GMT
check out the web site newtech.colstate.edu, which offers full credit for MCSE certification.]]>timkelly Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:51:24 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorMon, 13 Sep 1999 06:04:50 GMT
Very interesting! But is there anyone who knows how/if this works outside the U.S.?`I’m living in Sweden and don’t think this is even thought of up here...]]>Johan Berander-Lundh Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:04:50 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorFri, 10 Sep 1999 14:36:26 GMT
Getting college credit for MCSE training is a great opportunity for many people. The choice between continuing to work and going back to school is very difficult but programs like the ones mentioned in this article can bridge the gap somewhat. One thing the article failed to mention is that you typically will have to pay an additional fee to get college credit above and beyond what the cost of the class is. For most people though that extra cost is well worth it. Michael DeBussy MCSETutor.com]]>Michael DeBussy Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:36:26 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/getting-college-credit-for-mcse-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorWed, 08 Sep 1999 18:40:52 GMT
This is a great article. I just got my MCSE certification and want stay current with technology. winntmag.com is the place to be and I will recommend this to my friends and comworkers. Tim]]>Timothy T. Pinckney Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:40:52 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorWed, 01 Sep 1999 07:11:21 GMT
Excellent article. timely topic. good way to improve your scores on the MS tests. There is always a need for free course materials to ensure that you are current. The only problem is that with the explosion in CT (computer technology) it is difficult to resist the tendency to specialize in one small niche that may end up disappearing next month due to another change in OS or hardware capabilities.]]>Harold LeDrew Wed, 01 Sep 1999 07:11:21 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/visual-basic-vb/intel-s-online-resources-microsoft-vb-scripting-training#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/on-the-road-to-certification#commentsAnchorTue, 17 Aug 1999 21:57:15 GMT
Great Start! Keep up the upbuilding work. We need all the help we can get. Thanks!]]>Ron Burnett Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:57:15 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/training-and-certification2/on-the-road-to-certification#commentsAnchorhttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/internet/mcse-for-windows-nt-4-0#commentsAnchorFri, 13 Aug 1999 10:27:09 GMT
I have a comment about Steven W. Linthicum’s July article, “MCSE for Windows NT 4.0.” Microsoft has added an incentive for Novell Certified Network Engineers (CNEs) to become Microsoft certified. If you have completed the Novell certification, you can wave the networking essentials exam (exam number 70-58) if you fax your CNE certificate to Sylvan Prometric. I think this information will be helpful for those (like me) who are on the track from Novell to Microsoft.
--Eric Hibar]]>Eric Hibar Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:27:09 GMThttp://www.windowsitpro.com/article/internet/mcse-for-windows-nt-4-0#commentsAnchor