April 05, 2007 05:05 PM

Top Retailers Chime In: Demand for Vista is Strong

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Despite lingering concerns that Windows Vista isn't making much of a dent after over a month of general availability, retailers are reporting that demand for the new operating system is indeed strong. Both Best Buy and Circuit City report that consumer interest in Vista-based PCs is particularly strong: Best Buy says that sales were up 10 percent in the past month, while Circuit City didn't order enough Vista-based PCs to meet demand.

Of course, Best Buy and Circuit City have gone down different paths in recent months. Best Buy is surging, with profits up 18 percent year-over-year in the most recent quarter, thanks to increased sales of its PC and other electronic profits. Circuit City, meanwhile, is floundering. The company lost $12.2 million in the most recent quarter and responded by firing its top salespeople in order to save money. It's inability to stock enough Vista-based PCs was a direct result of its financial problems, Circuit City admitted.

Regarding Vista, its success is still somewhat fuzzy. When you combine Microsoft's numbers--20 million units sold in 30 days--with these reports from top electronics retailers in the US, Vista appears to be doing quite well. But it's worth noting that Vista benefitted from pent-up demand due to its five-year gestation, while the market for PCs today is quite a bit larger than it was five years ago when XP first arrived. That said, PC makers are expected to ship over 250 million units this year, and the vast majority of those PCs will utilize Windows Vista. So no matter how you measure it, Vista will be the dominant computing platform at some point in the near future.

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"Avery does have a wide range of Mac-compatible software"

find me one on their site. i sure as hell can't. if they have Mac-compatible software it sure isn't apparent. all the software i see is under the DesignPro name (which is all Windows-only), except for templates and their online print system (which is also Linux compatible too). find one and i'll consider your argument valid.

"I know of someone who bought his three new PhD students shiny iMacs."

funny you should say that. this one was also purchased for a PhD candidate. she even said that she "used to like computers" but now she hates them. by that logic, 5 years with a Mac has swayed her away.

"They didn't feel productive on Macs."

that's what she feels like too, but she still goes on about Mac "ease of use" and spouting off program names without even knowing which app is which. i guess she's just been brainwashed by too many Mac commercials.

"ignorance feeds ignorance"

XP

Joe4/6/2007 12:20:26 PM


"Wow, "Waethornbonch", your anecdotal tale has convinced me that PCs running Windows are FAR superior to any other computing solution out there!"

"A pot calling the kettle black, lotsa?"

Exactly. By the way, as far as anecdotes go, I know of someone who bought his three new PhD students shiny iMacs. Two years later, the Macs are being used by undergraduate students in the Department. The PhDs pressurized the professor to get them Dells. They didn't feel productive on Macs.

Shravan4/6/2007 8:10:44 AM


"Wow, "Waethornbonch", your anecdotal tale has convinced me that PCs running Windows are FAR superior to any other computing solution out there!"

A pot calling the kettle black, lotsa? Let me rephrase what you just said here to accommodate what you said on the previous page about your moment of clarity:

"Wow, "lotsabonch", your anecdotal tale has convinced me that PCs running Windows are FAR inferior to any other computing solution out there! In fact, it is SO convincing, that I'll spare you a half-dozen similar anecdotes from the other side of the fence!

Gosh, thanks!"

Now, back to the article at hand. No matter whether Vista sales are strong, super strong, weak, or whatever. Does anyone here, besides bonch, actually believe that Vista will NOT be the dominant platform in the next 1-2 years? So what does it really matter?

I'm also sure that if I went to the WayBackMachine, I'd see the same exact conversations about how people are not really adopting XP at a high rate. Or 95. Or 98.

joe4/6/2007 6:48:35 AM


Wow, "Waethornbonch", your anecdotal tale has convinced me that PCs running Windows are FAR superior to any other computing solution out there! In fact, it is SO convincing, that I'll spare you a half-dozen similar anecdotes from the other side of the fence!

Gosh, thanks!

(BTW FUDmaster, I'm assuming you used DesignPro from Avery...while you're right, that program is not available for the Mac, Avery does have a wide range of Mac-compatible software and templates available for download on their site, and I have a pile of CDs from Avery that work fine on my Mac if you'd like me to send you one for your customer.)

Lotsa4/6/2007 5:29:34 AM


will, i stopped reading the article after they said not once, but TWICE, that the Windows Vista slogan was called "the wow *begins* now". obviously i knew at that point that whoever it was that wrote the article was clueless and didn't know what they're talking about. i guess that's why losta could relate.

a true story: i had a girl in the other day with a Mac iBook that's not quite 5 years old and a really old HP Omnibook from the Windows 98 era. she used to have a printer for the HP laptop but sold it. she said she bought a new printer but it wouldn't work with Windows 98 but did work on her Mac. she also had a file of a business card design on the PC that she couldn't get off (it didn't have a burner, nor did you have the floppy drive from it). she also complained that the PC was "hard to use" and she wouldn't go back to using one after buying a Mac because they're "easy to use" (even though she also said she hates computers). the file in question was a business card design made in a piece of Broderbund stationary software. i asked her if she had any kind of design software on her computer, with which she replied "i have Adobe something or other". i asked if it was Photoshop, not expecting it to be, and she said it was iPhoto and iLife, and she also said that Broderbund doesn't make the app for Mac. anyway, i copied the file onto my Vista notebook and went to Avery's website (Avery, a paper company) and downloaded their free software online (also not available on Mac) and imported the design and printed away. what i find funny is that it took a matter of seconds for me to hook up a USB floppy drive to the HP and grab her file and print it up on my own computer. so job done, i get paid, and meanwhile i'm laughing because her >5 yr old HP works better than her Mac, and a PC guy shows her how things are done.

""I could care less."

Why do people still say that?"

i could care less, but i care not to.

XP

Joe4/5/2007 4:55:09 PM


@ksquare - "Yeah, retail sales are great. the consumer has no choice."

Can I buy a new Mac with OS X Panther installed OR with a recovery CD for Panther from an Apple store? I don't think so...so quitcherbitchin!!!

--tayme

Mark4/5/2007 4:18:59 PM


retail demand is strong, hmmm. see if you can find a non-Vista machine in a retail store. MS locked the computer manuf's into being allowed to ONLY put Vista on their consumer models.
I wanted a specific HP laptop that a few months ago came with XP no problem. Call HP now. They can't sell it that way due to licensing agrmts with MS. They can't even ship it with vista but include an XP recovery cd should I want to take the time to backlevel the machine without having to go out and find and download every needed driver.

Yeah, retail sales are great. the consumer has no choice.

Kevin4/5/2007 3:19:30 PM


"I could care less."

Why do people still say that?

Lotsa4/5/2007 1:30:51 PM


And Nate is right, I stopped giving any credence to the article after it posted a blatant lie,

"...Microsoft suffered another embarrassing Vista hitch. The software giant was forced Tuesday to issue an emergency security patch for the operating system to fix a vulnerability that allowed hackers to take over any machine that visited websites embedded with malicious code. "

It's been documented everywhere that the Vista kernel is immune to that attack.

Probability that article was written by EmoKid@myMacRox.com elevated by 95%.

Will4/5/2007 11:53:44 AM


I especially like how Diane Kelly is suing on the basis that she is an idiot. I guess even pride has a pricetag.

"All the 'wow' stuff that Microsoft is selling and marketing is present in (Windows Vista Home) Premium, but it's not present in Basic," --Attourney for the 'git

And if you read the 'words' under the 'sticker' it says that in plain english. If you want to be dazzled by a 400USD emachines... you deserve what you get.

---

As for the 'demand is strong', I could care less. I've got my copy, and it's chugging right along, as happy as can be. Only problem so far is that WMP11 doesn't like my Ulead DVD codec, so I have to watch DVDs in the Ulead Player instead of WMP11. No biggie, but WMP11 is more shiny.

Maybe I should sue Ulead b/c their player is less shiny than the box said it would be. Oh but wait, I actually don't want to portray myself as a moron to the public.

So Ms. Kelly, if you're out there, I certainly hope you get a settlement from MS for the punative damages you suffered from not being able to read the leaflet. Maybe then you can hire an aid of a more elevated intelligence to get you through the daily routines. I'd suggest one of those trained dogs.

Will4/5/2007 11:48:30 AM


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