Exclusive: Here Comes Windows Vista RC2 [Updated]

There were Win32 Days in the 1980's? i remember 8-bit and 16-bit, but i never knew that there were 32-bit days in the 1980s. And to think, i could have therefore run my copy of windows 3.1 in 32-bit mode...hmm

anyways...to quote ignorance...


"Maybe you didn't read my post thoroughly, but that's exactly what I wrote. Express means critical and Custom means critical+non-critical. My point was that the labels make absolutely no sense. Express should be called Critical and Custom should be called All. It's more illogical interface design from Microsoft."

Maybe on the online windows update site, express and custom could be thought of as that, but the what they actually do is, Express gets it over with right away by just downloading the critical updates, whereas, Custom lets you select exactly which updates you want from critical, and non critical updates. They call it custom because its custom, maybe you dont want a specific update because you have some oddball software package that has an issue with a particular update or something.

I think i speak for everyone when i say that Windows vs Apple is a matter of opinion only, in that they have far different idealogies, far different marketshare and customer base to try to appeal to, and far different issues in almost every aspect.

For example, Apple is a hardware and software company, whereas microsoft OS'es use the standard PC Architecture, and have alot more hardware and drivers to deal with. configuration in a large corporation, whereas Apple systems are 99.999% of the time used at home. Mac OS 9 has irritated me before when a missing font screwed the whole system, and microsoft irritates me in that everyone develops viruses for it and nobody makes a lightweight and reliable program to stop viruses. Yes, we all have our opinions, but unless theyre about windows, they dont really belong on this site. This article is about WINDOW S VISTA.

Bonch(preseton) whatever

So you have inside knowledge of all of the code used in Vista do you? Thought not. You talk about install font. Is that the best you can do for a criticism. Please.

Where did I say that IT pros would be immediately installing Vista. Don't put words into my mouth.

Vista has a completely different security model to XP. How many times has 2K3 server been broken? Considering Vista is derived from that codebase, I'm betting that it going to be a damn sight more robust than XP.

Vista is a compelling update, it may not be you in Mac World, but it is to me and I suspect much to your annoyance, that it will have a larger installed userbase within a month than Apple has on this planet. Do I feel smug. YES.

@sticknick:

"Funny - that sounds more like Apple fans to me."

Nah, Apple fans are the hip libertarians who go to parties and clubs on the weekends and do photography and write novels during the work week. :-D

@alanm999:

"Vista is 10 times as secure as XP because of the way it has been written. Silly boy."

10 times, eh? The way it was written? Can you be any more vague? Vista is more secure than XP, but it's still the same old Windows code with an extremely annoying dialog prompt. What's worse, it's still based on Win32 which dates back to the single-user DOS days of the 1980s.

"UAC isn't designed for IT Pro's, its designed for the man in the street. As such it very good idea."

It's nice that it's there, but I doubt that it will stop the security issues that plague the legacy Win32 code. Besides, other systems like Linux and OS X are able to implement secure desktop systems without constant, annoying user prompts--why was Microsoft unable to do this?

"Considering most IT pro's work in a corporate environment where Admin access will be turned off by default UAC isn't required."

Most IT pros won't be installing Vista for at least a year or two.

Vista will be a very slow seller. It might even be slower than XP was, which took years to overtake 98. It's just not a compelling update. Hell, Vista still has the same Windows 3.1 "Install Font" dialog from 15 years ago. I don't need to tell you that a certain other OS used by desktop publishers has a more modern font book interface for managing installed fonts.

I've installed RC2 and noticed that Microsoft STILL didn't fix the bug on multi-monitor setups, where maximizing a window on the second display makes the taskbar on the first display go opaque. At the Shell Blog, they just revealed that this is one of many bugs that won't get fixed in time for RTM. Ugh. Vista is rushed.

unMatChedProWess:


Just in case Alan made you feel like you don't belong in the club, here's a good way to win over the hearts of everyone on this forum except Losta, Preston and me:

Just say something bad about Apple, Macs, iPods, or OS X. Seriously, you don't even have to look something up. Just say that every time someone boots up OS X, a puppy dies. No need for proof or facts.

It's like insta-popularity on the WinSuperSite forums.