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March 10, 2010 09:36 AM

Ex Sun CEO: Steve Jobs Threatened Me, Too

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Former Sun Microsystems CEO Jonathan Schwartz this week said he understands how Google must feel in the wake of Apple's patent-infringement lawsuit against Android phone maker HTC. As it turns out, Apple CEO Steve Jobs threatened to sue him as well. So did Microsoft.

"In 2003, after I unveiled a prototype Linux desktop called Project Looking Glass, Steve [Jobs] called my office to let me know the graphical effects were 'stepping all over Apple's [intellectual property]'," Schwartz wrote in his blog. "If we moved forward to commercialize it," Jobs allegedly told Schwartz, "I'll just sue you."

Not so fast, Schwartz warned Jobs. He noted that Apple's Keynote presentation tool clearly used intellectual property that Schwartz's previous company had developed for NeXT, the company Jobs left when he was forced out of Apple in the 1980s. "And last I checked, MacOS is now built on UNIX. I think Sun has a few OS patents, too."

Jobs, he says, was silent. But the important bit was that Apple didn't sue. And according to industry experts, that is often how intellectual property works. Companies line up patents so that they can use them as leverage against other companies. So, if the threat of a lawsuit emerges, a company can point out potential legal issues with its own products as well.

"Bluster and threat are commonplace in business," Schwartz writes. "Especially the technology business."

Jobs wasn't the only high-profile technology executive to threaten Sun. Later, Microsoft's Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer arrived in Schwartz's Silicon Valley office to discuss OpenOffice.org, Sun's open-source office-productivity solution. "Microsoft owns the office-productivity market, and our patents read all over OpenOffice," Gates apparently told Schwartz, telling him that Sun would have pay Microsoft a licensing fee for each copy of OpenOffice it gave away. (OpenOffice is free.)

Likening this deal to a "digital version of a protection racket," Schwartz declined, and noted that Microsoft's .NET programming environment was "trampling all over a huge number of Java patents." He suggested that Microsoft could then, in turn, pay Sun a licensing fee for each copy of Windows it sold, since the .NET environment ships in Microsoft's OS.

Gates demurred, noting that royalties didn't fit in the Windows business model. "It was a short meeting," Schwartz said.

Ruminating over his experiences, Schwartz looks at the current patent litigation situation—in addition to the Apple/HTC spat, Nokia and Apple are also suing each other—and notes that relying on the courts with frivolous litigation is an act of desperation. "Suing a competitor typically makes them more relevant, not less," he adds. "Apple's actions are enhancing developer interest in Google's Android platform."

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  • yoshipod
    2 years ago
    Mar 12, 2010

    duanewatson,

    I'm glad you agree with the ridiculous comment about the ipad SKU. To see the bias, look at the very next short take. Its about Windows Phone 7 supporting multiple screen sizes.

    Nothing there saying it's confusing or pointless. Nothing confusing about different ship dates for that product based on configuration. Nothing negative, only positive, where he says the software will scale the image, and it will look good.

    "Each device type will include scaling hardware capabilities so that an application or game written for one will workand look goodon the other."

    So although he has not seen it himself ("I heard about this news during my Windows Phone meeting this week, but apparently Microsoft just blogged about it as well"), he claims it will look good.

    That is the bias. Two products, both showing similar traits (various configurations and ship dates) yet the Apple product is pointless and confusing. The Microsoft product, despite not seeing it, and not shipping for another 6-9 months, will look good. Apple product is given negative spin, Microsoft product positive.

  • duanewatson
    2 years ago
    Mar 12, 2010

    yoshipod:

    I can see how you think Paul is overly criticizing Apple for six skus on the iPad; I might even agree with you. But that does not come from Paul's supposed MS bias. I have heard him on numerous occasions bemoan MS's foolish and confusing skus for Windows.

    In both cases, I have two reactions: 1) I don't find them confusing at all and 2) Normal, non-geek people are easily confused by even simple things in technology. Now, you could argue that someone interested in the iPad would not be one of those people, but Apple has specifically marketed this device to those type of people. Everything's supposed to be "simple" and we're not supposed to worry about things like Flash, removable storage, and multi-tasking.

    So, is Paul overreacting: maybe; but biased? I don't think so.

  • yoshipod
    2 years ago
    Mar 12, 2010

    duanewatson,

    If you want an example of Paul's biased writing, look no further than his comments in todays Wininfo short takes.

    "Apple is allowing customers to preorder the iPad today, and the arrival times for the device versions are as confusing as the pointlessly confusing six models the company is offering. Wi-Fi-based versions of the iPad in 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB capacities will ship April 3 (and be available for in-store pick-up at some Apple Store locations), and 3G-enabled versions in 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB capacities will ship at some unspecified time in late April"

    All of a sudden, its confusing that Apple is offering different configurations of the ipad. Its "pointless" to have all these differences, which boil down to storage size and 3G capability.

  • NoNameAtAll
    2 years ago
    Mar 12, 2010

    "Wow, people are really polite in the comments.

    I seriously wonder if the few people here really understand how foolish they are with their childish, mean comment?"

    Or they might actually be trolling to get a reaction.

    Still childish, but it would mean they're aware of the foolishness, but just don't care.

    'Course, I'll probably get blasted on commenting on other commenters, but honestly, it's just unappealing.

  • Delmont
    2 years ago
    Mar 12, 2010

    Wow, people are really polite in the comments.

    I seriously wonder if the few people here really understand how foolish they are with their childish, mean comment?

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