Apple Admits to iPhone Connection Flaw. But Not THAT Connection Flaw

1, in my Nokia manual it tells you where the 3G antenna is -its in the bottom of the unit. If you hold the unit like a chocolate bar it can affect the phone as it has to use more power. But you don't hold a phone like that. It doesn't matter if you are left or right handed either. The manual mentions where the antenna is, but it doesn't tell you how not to hold the phone, nor does it have to advise you need to spend more your money in order to fix a design flaw.

I do wonder if this is another case of Apple's form over function.

O - I think you need to reread Anand's analysis. You are the one with your fingers in your ears. Yes the iphone suffers from attenuation more than other phones. Nobody is denying that, except for maybe Steve Jobs :). You are so caught up in that fact, you are blinded to everything else Anand writes.

Despite this problem, he could not get the phone to drop calls no matter how hard he tried. He also flatly stated the antennae is improved. Its better than the 3GS.

Why can't you see the forest for the trees?

Therefore, as my original post stated, Paul is wrong when he says "the new antennae system simply doesn't work properly". It does. It works better than the old phone and despite more attenuation, it hold calls.


I also never said that the article stated the phone was better than the competition. You seemed to bring that out of nowhere.

I mentioned Nokia, as another post talked about them. They also specifically have in their manual a diagram of how not to hold the phone. That is the same way that the iphone has the attenuation problems.

"Why don't they come with a $30 bumper as well?"

So what you're doing is only listening to Anand when you *think* he's making your points (when he's not), but then sticking your fingers in your ears when he doesn't?

He's the one who said Apple should add a coating or subsidize a bumper... Because other brands don't have this problem to an *excessive* degree.

You also keep making these other pointless arguments, e.g. Nokia. They never experienced 20dB of signal attenuation when holding a phone. All phones will experience some attenuation. No other phones will experience 20dB of attenuation. It's really quite simple. It's a logarithmic scale -- 20dB is a *lot*. That's 200 times less, over baseline, or 20 times worse than the Nexus, and about 100 times worse than other HTC devices (TP2 goes about -5dB when held). And then you mention, "Hey, it was better than previous iPhones." The problem is everyone knows previous iPhones had bad antennas. Bad enough that Apple publicly admitted to fudging their algorithm for displaying reception. Anand *never* said it was better than competition, only better than previous iPhones.

I don't understand how someone can love a company so much, it's impossible for them to admit they make mistakes. Crikey, you guys like you probably even think the Newton was a runaway success. Or even the Apple TV, which they're trying to sweep under the rug and figure out how to pretend the first version never existed. The only good thing, you could hack it and run Linux.

Intel screws up, Microsoft does, Apple does, etc.

"Um, the latter survey covered the years from 2007 to 2009."

Great, at that time 80% of the installed base had faulty hardware. What's your point? A *new* 40nm Xbox has 0-3% failure chance because they *learned* from their mistakes. You do realize they were still on their first (defective) hardware rev in 2007?

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"Guys, while your debate is "fascinating", I think we should take a step back and agree on something: for the price of a new Iphone 4 (whch is quite expesive), Apple MUST give us the bumper included, not tax us $30 more."

The iphone is pretty much the same price as other similar smart phones, like the Droid and Evo. So why are you not calling those expensive. Why don't they come with a $30 bumper as well?


THAT is the main problem here since the hardware issue won't leave until the next production run (hopefully).

"We should also agree that Apple NEEDS to expand its beta testing in order to match their high marketing expenses, since they're not Nokia or any other cellphone makers with dozens of different models, Apple only makes ONE main model so the least they can do is make it the BEST possible model BEFORE it leaves the factory."

This is what Apple does. Why does their beta testing have to match their marketing expenses? That is a poor comparison, and they have nothing to do with each other.

Yes, there is an issue with the antennae. Even Nokia has this same problem. They did the same thing Apple did and said not to hold the phone that way.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/28/nokia-muses-on-grip-styles-says-you-can-hold-your-phone-any-wa/