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October 19, 2006 12:00 AM

Apple Blasted for Cheeky iPod Warning

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A day after Apple Computer posted a grammatically and politically dubious statement on its Web site complaining about a Windows virus that made its way onto a small number of iPods, Microsoft and security experts responded with some common-sense observations.

Microsoft software engineer Jonathan Poon, responsible for ensuring that Microsoft products don't ship to the public with any malware, says Apple was wrong to blame Windows and, implicitly, Microsoft for its own quality-control problems.

"It's not a matter of which platform that the virus originated [on]," Poon wrote in his personal blog. "The fact that it's found on the portable player means that there's an issue with how the quality checks, specifically the content check, was done. This also indicates that through the manufacturing cycle, the base device from which the image was duplicated to the other devices in the manufacturing run, was connected to a PC that most probably did not have, and I quote their press release, 'up to date antivirus software which is included with most Windows computers'."

Poon compared Apple's curiously childish public pronouncements about this concern with a similar event that occurred this week at McDonald's restaurants in Japan. "McDonald's in Japan encountered a similar incident just a few days earlier as well," he wrote. "Indeed, they published a press release, apologized for it, and did not insinuate that Windows was the cause of their issue. Furthermore, they provided a very specific fix to their issue, compared to a general set of linkages to trial and/or free versions of anti-virus scanners."

Others were even less impressed by Apple's tactics. Randy Abrams, director of technical education at ESET, a global provider of security software for enterprises and consumers, wrote in his own blog that the contrast between the Apple and McDonald's incidents is even more embarrassing to Apple that it would seem at first. "Apple doesn't seem to get it," he wrote. "It isn't that there was a virus on the iPods, the issue is that they did not know what they were releasing. I don't expect McDonald's to understand technology, but Apple should."

"McDonald's did the responsible thing and accepted responsibility," Abrams continues. "Apple tried to deflect blame by pointing fingers at Microsoft ... [This is] a complete lack of security in a manufacturing environment. Manufacturing completely failed to institute basic quality assurance and moderate quality control. But hey, why waste an opportunity to blame Microsoft for content on an iPod?"

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  • MLomasIcomm
    6 years ago
    Oct 22, 2006

    >DerekTraver
    "the virus was so null that it wasn't dangerous and could easily be caught by an anti-virus protection scan"

    So, why didn't the manufacturing plant do that?

    You insist it was the plant -not Apple- that made the error here, whereas actually, it could just as easily be Apple, as surely it would be Apple that would provide the software to the plant to put on the iPods?

    In a case like this, you have to examine the procedure from start to finish - look at where the software originated from, and all the systems it may have 'passed through' to make it onto the iPod.

    All of those systems - including those at Apple, should be checked, and the question of why it wasn't spotted in advance is JUST as important as how it was dealt with afterwards.

    I'm not crying foul over Apple for taking pot-shots at the competition, companies do so all the time, but a couple of questions remain unanswered, like - did Apple conduct a review to find out how this happened? What will they do to stop this happening again?

    Ultimately, in ANY kind of situation where your quality control has been comprimised - any company that really wants to show that it cares about it's customers would go into _overdrive_ dealing with the problem. Posting a few links to anti-virus vendors is doing the bare minimum.

  • Joe
    6 years ago
    Oct 20, 2006

    I agree with the previous point about the Sony battery issue not being on the same level as the virus issue. The Sony issue has to do with a safety recall. Because it has to do with customer safety, the investigation into Sony's battery manufacturing process was justified. All of the notebook makers did take a major portion of the blame too, rather than pointing the finger first.

    Apple is leveraging a (theoretical, although possibly intentional) flaw in their own manufacturing QA process to generate a PR campaign and further their own business, nothing more. Whether you believe it's a fault of Apple or not, it IS Apple's partner and Apple is to blame for releasing a product without proper QA (quality assurance) checks before stamping their name on it.

    BTW: I like that term: "iTude". Fitting.

  • Ben
    6 years ago
    Oct 19, 2006

    "They came straight forward and addressed the fact that the problem has to do with their own iPods, and their own manufacturing plant."
    Well if they came out and said, "the problem is on Creative's player and in Creative's plants" the iPeople would probably have gone along their merry way in fantasy land where Apple does no wrong.

    "When someone ships a product with a virus on it that only affects OS X.... I'm sure all of you will not blame Apple's operating system will you?"
    No, we won't actually. It wouldn't be Apple's fault, it would be the fault of the shipping company. And as everyone else has already stated, the current issue is that Apple made a mistake and are trying to lay the blame on someone else.

    "it is similar to what already happened this summer when Apple blamed Sony for manufacturing faulty batteries. Not the same, but similar."
    Actually it's very little to do with that. In that case Sony was at fault, but what happened was that iPeople used the opportunity to put down the the wintel world by saying only Dell laptops were blowing up. In the meantime we in the wintel world pointed out that actually Apple laptops were exploding as well, something that iFanboys covered their ears and shouted "la la la" at.

    What I do agree with though Derek is that this article still gets a low rating. It's yesterdays news, something Thurrot seems to be delivering a lot of lately.

  • Frode
    6 years ago
    Oct 19, 2006

    Partial responsibility. Instead of being "upset at Windows" maybe they should be "upset" at the person who forgot to install Anti-Virus on the computer they used to image the iPods, or maybe even be upset at the person who infected the computer to begin with.

    RavMonE.exe isn't even something that spreads through a known vulnerability, but rather an .exe that has to be executed for the virus to spread. Maybe we should all be a little upset at autorun.inf and it's implementation in Windows, it's not exactly the greatest invention to ever come out of Microsoft, but that doesn't excuse a multi-billion dollar company like Apple to skimp on their security.

    Well I wouldn't say it was that similar to what happened with the batteries and Sony. Sony delivered a product to Apple, which Apple again incorporated into their product. In such a case you expect the product to be of sufficient quality for something like that not to happen.

    In the case of the iPod's, Microsoft did not deliver any product to Apple nor did they have any part in the process of imaging the file or setting up the computer that was used to do so.

    If Sony batteries were "flawless", and it was rather the circuit design of Apple that made the notebooks catch on fire then it would be a more similar case. In such a case criticizing Sony for their batteries would be just as bad as criticizing Microsoft. However, eventhough Apple's circuitry maybe wasn't as bulletproof as it could have been, the problem did originate in the batteries being faulty. Hence "blame" should be (at least partially) sent towards Sony.

    For me it doesn't matter who did what. think I'd still have the same stance if roles were reversed and Apple were blamed by Microsoft for something that was completely and utterly Microsoft's responsibility. If they Microsoft pooped their pants, they better damned well take responsibility for it too.

    I do urge you however to bring it up at a later point, when and where appropriate

  • subzerohitman721
    6 years ago
    Oct 19, 2006

    This is exactly why I rarely ever purchase and limit my exposure to Apple or their products. Its clear that Steve Jobs childish nature from the late 1970s, still is ever present throughout the company. Anytime something goes wrong or a new product line is introduced, they go down to slander and idiotic commericals.

    Micrsoft so far has taken the high road and I commend them for that. Apple doesn't realize that most people get offended when they use such cheap melodramatic statements just to appease a small niche market.

    With the potential of Apple, its product lines and its operating system, they could be so much more if they would just cut to the point. The whole slandering Microsoft is really getting old and pretty much keeps me from doing more business. I feel other cultures where how you present yourself are also hindered by the blatent arrogant "typical American" attitude that Apple seems to reak.

    This kind of behavior is discussed in fundamental business courses at any local college. Perhaps Steve Jobs and company might want to take courses and reach a more adult standard.

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