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October 19, 2006

Apple Blasted for Cheeky iPod Warning

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A day after Apple Computer posted a grammatically and politically dubious statement on its Web site complaining about a Windows virus that made its way onto a small number of iPods, Microsoft and security experts responded with some common-sense observations.

Microsoft software engineer Jonathan Poon, responsible for ensuring that Microsoft products don't ship to the public with any malware, says Apple was wrong to blame Windows and, implicitly, Microsoft for its own quality-control problems.

"It's not a matter of which platform that the virus originated [on]," Poon wrote in his personal blog. "The fact that it's found on the portable player means that there's an issue with how the quality checks, specifically the content check, was done. This also indicates that through the manufacturing cycle, the base device from which the image was duplicated to the other devices in the manufacturing run, was connected to a PC that most probably did not have, and I quote their press release, 'up to date antivirus software which is included with most Windows computers'."

Poon compared Apple's curiously childish public pronouncements about this concern with a similar event that occurred this week at McDonald's restaurants in Japan. "McDonald's in Japan encountered a similar incident just a few days earlier as well," he wrote. "Indeed, they published a press release, apologized for it, and did not insinuate that Windows was the cause of their issue. Furthermore, they provided a very specific fix to their issue, compared to a general set of linkages to trial and/or free versions of anti-virus scanners."

Others were even less impressed by Apple's tactics. Randy Abrams, director of technical education at ESET, a global provider of security software for enterprises and consumers, wrote in his own blog that the contrast between the Apple and McDonald's incidents is even more embarrassing to Apple that it would seem at first. "Apple doesn't seem to get it," he wrote. "It isn't that there was a virus on the iPods, the issue is that they did not know what they were releasing. I don't expect McDonald's to understand technology, but Apple should."

"McDonald's did the responsible thing and accepted responsibility," Abrams continues. "Apple tried to deflect blame by pointing fingers at Microsoft ... [This is] a complete lack of security in a manufacturing environment. Manufacturing completely failed to institute basic quality assurance and moderate quality control. But hey, why waste an opportunity to blame Microsoft for content on an iPod?"

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Reader Comments
Wasn't this already discussed in the last article? It wasn't grammatically dubious, and I don't think it's unreasonable for Apple to make sure that people understand that the virus only runs on Windows and was, in fact, originated from an infected Windows machine. There's no way around that.

Apple didn't try to deflect any blame here; they specifically mention their own fault for not catching the virus on the assembly line. But they do point out the obvious--that the infection occurred because of Windows and its alarming susceptibility to viruses. Microsoft is, after all, the company that releases IE7 one day, and the next, we're already seeing security vulnerabilities announced for it:

http://secunia.com/Internet_Explorer_Arbitrary_Content_Disclosure_Vulnerability_Test/

Apple also has jabs on its website toward the fact Windows doesn't support EFI, while Boot Camp enables BIOS emulation and makes it so the Mac "runs in both centuries," to quote the site, so this is nothing new for them. Microsoft has said similar things about Linux (even calling Open Source a "cancer"). It's just part of business.

Preseton October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


Paul used the perfect word for it: childish. When you consider that almost every company under the sun uses Windows, and that therefore almost all similar QC problems from all of those companies came from a Windows machine, Apple stands alone blaming Microsoft.

At the same time, I think Apple is, though quite annoying in this regard, still business savvy. They've found something that works for them and their customers, and they're sticking with it. If Apple consumers love to hate Windows, Steve Jobs certainly has no reason to change course, even if it would be the grown up thing to do.

tom275 October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


No Preseton, the infection did NOT occur "because of Windows." It occurred because Apple, who should be employing hundreds of tech engineers to provide quality control, failed to do so adequately.

It happened through Windows. Just like murders occur through the use of a weapon. Murders don't happen "because of weapons," they happen because of murderers.

The line of thought you mentioned was probably exactly the same one adopted by the execs at Apple who released the statement, and it's indicative of people who can't look at themselves, their company, their products, and their competitors in a reasonable way.

tom275 October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


And, just to preempt the mild inconsistency in my posts: I think that Apple's culture is unreasonable, but they have learned through experience that such an approach works for their customers. In a vicious cycle, the two feed off each other, so that I'm sure many of the people working at Apple believe their animosity toward Microsoft is well founded, in part because it makes so much money.

tom275 October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


"If Apple consumers love to hate Windows, Steve Jobs certainly has no reason to change course, even if it would be the grown up thing to do."

Exactly. It's what Apple's customers want and not surprisingly, Apple is only too happy to cooperate.

shark47 October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


Tom275, you hit the nail right on the head. As someone else has mentioned before, it is the iTude that is prevelant through all of Apple, and all of the iPeople that drink the Kool-Aid from Cupertino. And if they were to really concentrate on the business market, they would need to immediately drop this attitude. Outside of what Ballmer or Jobs may say out of their collective ar*es, official written knowledge base articles should not be worded in such a way. And, how about actually providing some reasonable information on how to remove the virus? The site gives links to various trials, but does not give any specific information on what to do. When Sony did the same thing (albeit they did it on purpose), they got a lot of much needed flak, and responded with proper information on what to do. Apple has not done that.

This is one of those situations where it is not acceptable for a LOB PC to be infected in such a way. This is not some general workstation that is used by a user, but it should be a locked down PC that can only do specific tasks, and up to date with patches and virus software, which it obviously was not. Most likely, it was a PC that was also used by staff to surf the 'net. Given the typical factory floor, I'm sure the types of sites that they were going to were probably not the PG rated sites that would be deemed NSFW in a typical office. Any tool can be misused. Just like when a manufacturer issues a recall, they don't blame the manufacturer of the part, or the manufacturer of the robot that made it, but they explain the problem, and provide a resolution.

And the constant blathering about how much more secure the Mac is going to bite them one day, if they ever do realize that increased market share. Once again, scroll down to figure six for some interesting analysis: http://blogs.technet.com/security/archive/2006/10/17/2006-january-through-september-vulnerability-trends.aspx

bmnbmn October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


What should be most embarrassing for Apple is the fact that they were even using a Windows PC. What’s wrong with using OS-X for this critical part of the manufacturing process? But the blame falls squarely on Apple for choosing to use Windows in the first place, and then for ignorance or laxity in pursuing the security rigmarole that is sadly necessary with Windows.

rbaronaz October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


I'm giving this another bad rating because this is basically the same exact article we read yesterday. That's the only two bad ratings I've given you this year Paul, both in the same week.

Okay, rbaronaz-
The manufacturer is not Apple, let's all get that straight. Therefore, they have their own choice in what OS they want to use at their company. Windows is probably much cheaper for them, who knows. But there is no embarrassment in the fact that a manufacturing plant uses a competitor's product. That's going on all across the world between thousands of companies, get a clue people.

The fact that this virus only affects Windows based PC's is where Microsoft gave Apple the opportunity to take another shot at Windows... It's no different than their commercials, which frankly are funny and have some truth to them. Yes, it is avoiding the problem in this case...in some ways. But in some ways there is truth to what Apple said. People who ignore the fact that Mac users were totally not affected and only Windows users are have been drinking too much MS Kool-Aid themselves.

Paul... John Poon isn't going to have anything good to say about Apple, and it's not like he's some critical analyst from the Wall Street Journal. He's a Microsoft employee, absolute bias.

Randy Abrams is commenting on it as many of us did yesterday. How many people traded oppinions on this issue? How is that a news story?

This would have never made headlines if:

1, it hadn't come from Apple and...
2, Apple did go out on a limb to blame MS.

Any other small virus (it only affects less than 1% of iPods produced there) would have done good to make Microsoft's to-do list this month in a security update. In other words, this is all a bunch of hype. I'll catch the rest of you when we get some real news.

DerekTraver October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


"Wasn't this already discussed in the last article? It wasn't grammatically dubious"

Actually it was incorrect grammar. But that couldn't be more irrelevant (not irrelaventer).

What is important is that Apple seems to have gone the route of political mudslinging. Let's not talk about issues, let's just insinuate and make false apologies.

This is just as bad as the Mark Foley thing. I was molested therefore I shouldn't be responsible for my behavior? Please.

And for all the people here who seem to think Mac = Democrat and Windows = Republican, I'm a Democrat who likes Windows the best of all OSes I've ever used. So please stop making this a political thing. This issue is entirely about Apple making cheap shots and being irresponsible. And for that they can go suck on an egg.

orion.adrian@gmail.com October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


hmmm.. They use Windows (98/2000 or XP-SP1 perhaps) and Norton Antivirus maybe :)
But all joking aside, Apple did drop the ball here. As a software developer I can't blame the user for bugs in my software. So apple can't blame windows for bugs in their quality control.
That said.. I guess the person in charge will get a Mac tomorrow.. :)

VinnyH October 19, 2006 (Article Rating: )


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