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December 08, 2003

Microsoft Pulls Some Legacy Products from MSDN, Cites Sun Settlement

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   On December 15, Microsoft will retire a range of legacy products from its Microsoft Developer Network (MSDN) Subscriber Downloads service, which the company designed to give developer subscribers access to the company's most recent technologies and products. Citing its settlement with Sun Microsystems over the use of Microsoft-specific Java technologies in its products, Microsoft will pull Microsoft BackOffice Server 2000, Microsoft MapPoint 2002, the Microsoft Office 2000 suite and related products, Microsoft Office XP Developer, Microsoft SQL Server 7.0, and Windows 98. All these products include Microsoft Java Virtual Machine (JVM). However, critics and conspiracy theorists have noted that the software giant has until September 2004 to cease support for its products that include JVM. Why is the company removing access to these products almost a year ahead of schedule?
   "Due to a settlement agreement reached in January 2001, Microsoft is phasing out the Microsoft Virtual Machine from its products," MSDN Subscriber Downloads Program Manager Andy Boyd posted on the MSDN Subscriber Downloads site late last week. "As of December 15, 2003, we will phase out several product families, and remove the Microsoft Virtual Machine from others." Those largely unidentified products include XP Professional Edition with Microsoft Office FrontPage, some versions of Windows NT 4.0, and Microsoft Small Business Server (SBS) 2000; the company promises that by the end of 2003, these products will no longer include JVM.
   This change isn't the first time Microsoft has prematurely removed products from MSDN. In February 2000, when the company released Windows 2000, it alerted MSDN subscribers that it would no longer automatically ship NT 4.0 on CD-ROM but would require subscribers to specifically ask for the product if they wanted it. Following a huge number of complaints from its customers, Microsoft restored NT 4.0 to the default CD-ROM set that subscribers received.
   So is this incident similar to Microsoft's 2000 faux pas? I don't believe so. Unlike the default CD-ROM (and now, optionally, DVD) set that subscribers obtain, MSDN Subscriber Downloads is specifically designed to let programmers download the most recent Microsoft products. Although some of these products (e.g., Office 2003, Win98) are arguably still in wide use, most MSDN subscribers have already received at least several copies of the products on CD-ROM or DVD. But that logic isn't stopping Microsoft's critics and competitors from crying foul. "It seems to me that [Microsoft] would be keen to use any excuse to get customers to 'upgrade,' spend more money, and get more locked in to things like Office XP's [Digital Rights Management--DRM]," Simon Phipps, Sun's chief technology evangelist, told eWEEK. Office XP doesn't include DRM technology, so what Phipps meant by this comment is unclear; I suspect he was referring to Microsoft Product Activation, which prevents casual software piracy.

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Reader Comments
I meant Office 2003 in connection with DRM, sorry.

Simon Phipps December 08, 2003


Paul, I can understand the removal of some of the older apps listed. But I'm a bit confused as to why Office XP Developer is being removed. Does this removal from the MSDN subscriber download service equate to a product retirement?

Also, will Microsoft continue to offer support on those products (if any) that have not reached end of life yet?


Editor's note: I was a little freaked by Office XP Developer too. That, more than any of the other products, seems like a bold attempt to get developers to stop writing add-ins for older (pre-2003) Office versions. The products are all still supported through their normal life cycles. --Paul

James December 08, 2003


This is the 1st I've heard of the removals. I am currently running on windows 98.

As I'm not in a position to update my microsoft package right now, are there any suggested downloads before Dec 15th ?

Many thanks

carla December 09, 2003


Could he have been talking about Microsoft Office 2003 Information Rights Management (IRM)?


Editor's note: Yeah. And actually, I think that's what he meant, though rights management is a feature of Office 2003 that benefits users, and it's one of many things OpenOffice.org/StarOffice doesn't offer. --Paul

Jeremy December 10, 2003


He probably was talking about Office 2003, but his arguement doesn't make much sense. All MS is saying is that they can't distribute new copies software that contains the MSJVM, current licenses and support timetables are unaffected. Plus, the September date is the date the MS must cease support for the products, the date for ceasing distribution is still Jan 2. You'd think that maybe Sun would be aware of the dates that they've litigated with MS, instead of suing them to remove Java, then suing them to put it back in, then complaining when they remove the software 2 weeks ahead of the schedule that they agreed to.

AJ December 10, 2003


If I want to install Office 2000 Pro after Dec 23rd, will I be able to download the updates ie: Sr1, Sr1a, Sp2 and Sp3 from Microsoft.

jcaussi December 12, 2003


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